Somewhere, in a galaxy far, far away, there is a world where one country has a government that intends to wage war upon another. The main opposition party understands the reasons for the war, but realises that they should be put to the public in a referendum before a decision to go to war is made.
However, before there is another election, the ruling party declares war and battle ensues.
A while later, the election is held and what had until been the main opposition party forms the new government.
There are those who then demand the "promised" referendum on whether to go to war, though then try to make out that it was really (or should have been, or something) about coming out of the war.
Oops! Too late: the world has changed, and that is no longer an option. That was then, this is now. In the complex reality that a developed world is, it is not possible to knock together a simple, quick-and-easy, substitute referendum. It is necessary to move to the now, not to cling to a past that no longer exists. That is obvious, surely, to anyone!
All of us who have an idea about how the world actually works are aware of this, so we don't fall for the line that "it was cast-iron promise, and that means", well, whatever those peddling the line want it to mean. It is a pity that there are so many who are gullible enough to be taken in: they merely encourage the same dishonesty, and so it goes on.
Back to the here and now: it is a matter of public record that the ONLY referendum promised by David Cameron regarding the EU was in respect of ratification of the Lisbon Treaty. Once that was ratified, the game changed completely; and the intelligent operator (e.g. military Generals and Chiefs of Staff) knows that a re-think is required, and that won't be an overnight matter.
It is therefore clear that those claiming otherwise, regarding the Cameron promise, are one of three things:
- Too thick to understand,
- Too lazy to check, or
- Too dishonest to admit the truth
Therefore I expect never again to have the lie peddled here by any commenter who wishes ever to have comments published on this 'blog. I have been somewhat indulgent in the past, in the interests of good debate, but I cannot encourage or condone dishonesty, even if only through my own inaction. There will be no more lies on this clear-cut matter, not here!
Move to the Now, and to the truth, or move out!
I'm well aware of Cameron's reasons for not having a referendum, I'm also well aware that he could have had an in or out referendum on the EU as well, after all if he can allow one (for the coalition) on voting reform etc. However his later actions merely confirmed that he and the Tory leadership are not EUsceptics, stating himself that he does not believe leaving the EU is in Britains intersts. That's why he (and the Tory party) wont get my vote and never will until they act like a proper EUsceptic party, individual members being EUsceptic isn't enough, unless the leadership changes to an EUsceptic stance, the Tory party will not pick up UKIP votes. It really is as simple as that.
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